Samelson03
Aug 17, 08:40 AM
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/8660/screenshot20100815at407.png (http://sheepshaver.deviantart.com/#/d2wftqg)
Great desktop! what's that "WIP" app?
Great desktop! what's that "WIP" app?
HyperZboy
Apr 28, 02:47 PM
Where are all the people who were ranting here for years over ATT and wanting VERIZON?
Sure, there are many locked into contracts, but where are all the NEW customers that were ranting that they were waiting for a VERIZON iPhone and kept slamming ATT?
Is this due to "antennagate?" I seriously doubt that.
Apparently, they were the trolling vocal minority according to this report.
Either that or Apple & ATT's marketing campaign that pitted the advantages of GSM over CDMA actually worked. Hmm.
That and I honestly haven't seen nearly as many ads from VERIZON over the iPhone than when ATT had it exclusively & originally. I think VERIZON was busy counting the eggs before they hatched.
Sure, there are many locked into contracts, but where are all the NEW customers that were ranting that they were waiting for a VERIZON iPhone and kept slamming ATT?
Is this due to "antennagate?" I seriously doubt that.
Apparently, they were the trolling vocal minority according to this report.
Either that or Apple & ATT's marketing campaign that pitted the advantages of GSM over CDMA actually worked. Hmm.
That and I honestly haven't seen nearly as many ads from VERIZON over the iPhone than when ATT had it exclusively & originally. I think VERIZON was busy counting the eggs before they hatched.
quagmire
Oct 10, 06:07 PM
I changed my desktop again with a picture from the air show I went to today.
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8192/screenshot20101010at705.png
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8192/screenshot20101010at705.png
revelated
Jan 18, 11:57 PM
Part of that is due to engine choices in the US: because many of the engines used by foreign car companies are not federalized, and because US carmakers largley ignore the small car market, we don't get the most efficient engines for small cars.
Case in point: look at small cars sold in both Europe and the US, like the Mini Cooper, Volkswagen Golf, Ford Focus (different version, but same-ish size) or event the Smart. All of these cars come with smaller, more efficient engines in Europe, either as the base engine or as options. The US versions, however, all use larger, less efficient engines and omit the diesel options entirely. Thus, much of potential efficiency of these cars is wasted.
Therefore, it's not that the Altima is much more efficient than the Versa. Rather, the most efficient engine option in the Altima is as efficient as the rather inefficient engine that the Versa is saddled with here in the states. And it's our own fault, because Americans are stereotyped as demanding more powerful engines without regard to fuel economy.
The new Jetta and Passat are no exceptions - they get more engine choices outside the US.
I simply don't agree with this at all. You're basically saying that the Altima's 4 banger is inefficient which couldn't be further from the truth. I can drive to Phoenix, AZ from San Diego, CA - a distance of ~500 miles - on half a tank. I don't call that inefficient at all, especially since I know for a fact that a Prius can't do that. Also the Versa's engine is a 2.0 which should be less powerful but in theory more efficient than the Altima, except for aerodynamics. It's just not. The only advantage the Versa has over the Altima is the interior roof trim - it really does cut wind noise better than the Altima. Beyond that, the Versa is an overpriced piece of crap, quite frankly.
But it's not all small cars in the US that suck. Honda and Acura have been making efficient small cars for years. I don't agree that the small car market is ignored - rather, it's not focused on. Diesel, in my opinion, is a failed market out here. Great concept, but there just isn't enough steam behind it. I applaud Volkswagen for trying. But the reality is that everyone has it wrong. The answer isn't petrol because it's limited, it isn't electric because capacity is at a premium, and it isn't hybrid because the cost is prohibitive. The answer lies in the very thing that surrounds us constantly. I'm afraid I just won't be alive to see people realize it.
Case in point: look at small cars sold in both Europe and the US, like the Mini Cooper, Volkswagen Golf, Ford Focus (different version, but same-ish size) or event the Smart. All of these cars come with smaller, more efficient engines in Europe, either as the base engine or as options. The US versions, however, all use larger, less efficient engines and omit the diesel options entirely. Thus, much of potential efficiency of these cars is wasted.
Therefore, it's not that the Altima is much more efficient than the Versa. Rather, the most efficient engine option in the Altima is as efficient as the rather inefficient engine that the Versa is saddled with here in the states. And it's our own fault, because Americans are stereotyped as demanding more powerful engines without regard to fuel economy.
The new Jetta and Passat are no exceptions - they get more engine choices outside the US.
I simply don't agree with this at all. You're basically saying that the Altima's 4 banger is inefficient which couldn't be further from the truth. I can drive to Phoenix, AZ from San Diego, CA - a distance of ~500 miles - on half a tank. I don't call that inefficient at all, especially since I know for a fact that a Prius can't do that. Also the Versa's engine is a 2.0 which should be less powerful but in theory more efficient than the Altima, except for aerodynamics. It's just not. The only advantage the Versa has over the Altima is the interior roof trim - it really does cut wind noise better than the Altima. Beyond that, the Versa is an overpriced piece of crap, quite frankly.
But it's not all small cars in the US that suck. Honda and Acura have been making efficient small cars for years. I don't agree that the small car market is ignored - rather, it's not focused on. Diesel, in my opinion, is a failed market out here. Great concept, but there just isn't enough steam behind it. I applaud Volkswagen for trying. But the reality is that everyone has it wrong. The answer isn't petrol because it's limited, it isn't electric because capacity is at a premium, and it isn't hybrid because the cost is prohibitive. The answer lies in the very thing that surrounds us constantly. I'm afraid I just won't be alive to see people realize it.
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jrko
Mar 27, 01:52 PM
thanks zen.state.
what compound would you recommend? arctic silver seems to be the standard
what compound would you recommend? arctic silver seems to be the standard
Grade
Dec 10, 07:20 PM
damn.
How'd you do the dock like that? I've never messed with my icons or dock before but I like how nice and clean that looks.
Never mind the dock. The chick is hot. Who is she?
How'd you do the dock like that? I've never messed with my icons or dock before but I like how nice and clean that looks.
Never mind the dock. The chick is hot. Who is she?
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jimjiminyjim
Nov 4, 06:55 PM
Since I just got my new PMG5 yesterday, what is a good program (free or otherwise) for making backups of DVD's (legally of course)? I have quite a collection and ones that I use a lot I want to make an extra copy of. I am looking for a program that will allow me to make an exact copy of the DVD, as if I were playing my original copy.
Side Note: Since my new PM has a 8x Superdrive, do I NEED to use the 8x Apple DVD-R's, or can I use a different brand (or speed)? I remember back when I used to use faster CDR's they didn't always work good...is this still true? Thanks!
Without a doubt, "SuperDuper!" is one of the best backup programs I've used. It won't make a DVD that is immediately useable on any old DVD player, but it will save all the information easily on a disk image should you need to make one (since you're not actually watching these anyway).
Side Note: Since my new PM has a 8x Superdrive, do I NEED to use the 8x Apple DVD-R's, or can I use a different brand (or speed)? I remember back when I used to use faster CDR's they didn't always work good...is this still true? Thanks!
Without a doubt, "SuperDuper!" is one of the best backup programs I've used. It won't make a DVD that is immediately useable on any old DVD player, but it will save all the information easily on a disk image should you need to make one (since you're not actually watching these anyway).
Compile 'em all
Jan 10, 09:53 AM
I mean, from where the hell I am I supposed to buy an iSight now. I was dead sure they will release a new iSight at this Macworld but nothing happened.
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crackbookpro
Apr 28, 06:16 AM
Apple...
You are/were 1 to 2 years late with putting out this Verizon iPhone.
Android has gained adoption...
Don't worry, you will be fine in the long run - a Verizon LTE iPhone 6 will get your sales kicked in within the Verizon market. I know I will be going back to an iPhone when it happens. :cool:
You are/were 1 to 2 years late with putting out this Verizon iPhone.
Android has gained adoption...
Don't worry, you will be fine in the long run - a Verizon LTE iPhone 6 will get your sales kicked in within the Verizon market. I know I will be going back to an iPhone when it happens. :cool:
steve2112
Jan 18, 01:36 PM
I don't get why Americans like bigger cars. Maybe it's the old mantra of bigger is better?
Have you SEEN most Americans lately? It's not a matter of want, it's a matter of NEED. Gotta have room for those big bodies. :)
It's combination of factors people have listed. For the most part, we don't have to deal with the narrow streets that much of Europe and Asia have. Also, I think Americans drive more. Now that I think about it, I would like to see a comparison of average miles driven per year in the US vs. Europe. I wonder how many people in Europe, for example, drive 30+ miles one way to work every day. If you drive that much, you want something with more room and better ride. Also, as pointed out, if the next bigger model provides similar mileage and isn't much more expensive, why not get it?
The same is true with more powerful engine options in the same car. In the new Hyundai Sonata, for example, the turbocharged 4 produces 70+ more HP yet is only rated 1 MPG less. For that small a penalty, why not go for more power?
Have you SEEN most Americans lately? It's not a matter of want, it's a matter of NEED. Gotta have room for those big bodies. :)
It's combination of factors people have listed. For the most part, we don't have to deal with the narrow streets that much of Europe and Asia have. Also, I think Americans drive more. Now that I think about it, I would like to see a comparison of average miles driven per year in the US vs. Europe. I wonder how many people in Europe, for example, drive 30+ miles one way to work every day. If you drive that much, you want something with more room and better ride. Also, as pointed out, if the next bigger model provides similar mileage and isn't much more expensive, why not get it?
The same is true with more powerful engine options in the same car. In the new Hyundai Sonata, for example, the turbocharged 4 produces 70+ more HP yet is only rated 1 MPG less. For that small a penalty, why not go for more power?
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okrelayer
Apr 11, 07:12 AM
Michelle Tratchenberg from the movie Euro Trip.:cool:
She looks to be enjoying the VLC app ;)
I keep trying to change my wallpaper, but I enjoy the dark minimal look of this to much. Helps me focus on the things I need to do
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1285/screenshot20110411at811.png
She looks to be enjoying the VLC app ;)
I keep trying to change my wallpaper, but I enjoy the dark minimal look of this to much. Helps me focus on the things I need to do
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1285/screenshot20110411at811.png
twoodcc
Feb 8, 05:35 PM
Thanks. Put my offer in on one so hopefully it gets accepted.
I'm sitting on 48-9k PPD right now. 950 @ 4ghz and 1750mhz on the shaders of the 460. Not too shabby.
**Edit**
Updated the Nvidia drivers to 266 and now the GTX 460s are both folding at 15K + each. That's an increase of 3-4k PPD each.
well good luck with the house. if the offer isn't accepted, stand your ground! don't agree to a higher price! they will come down eventually
that's a nice upgrade! now just add that 920 @ 4ghz and you'll be smokin!
I'm sitting on 48-9k PPD right now. 950 @ 4ghz and 1750mhz on the shaders of the 460. Not too shabby.
**Edit**
Updated the Nvidia drivers to 266 and now the GTX 460s are both folding at 15K + each. That's an increase of 3-4k PPD each.
well good luck with the house. if the offer isn't accepted, stand your ground! don't agree to a higher price! they will come down eventually
that's a nice upgrade! now just add that 920 @ 4ghz and you'll be smokin!
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bikertwin
May 2, 10:54 PM
While I'd like to applaud MacRumors for instituting a blood drive, it seems particularly cruel in that there is a larger percentage of gay men among Apple fans than in the general population.
And we can't donate.
For political reasons, not scientific ones.
Even the American Red Cross wants our blood:
http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/14/ban-on-gay-men-donating-blood-upheld/
Talk about risk factors--what about closeted gay men who screw random strangers, having unprotected sex, and then go home to their cozy wife & kids? If their wife/workplace encourages them to donate blood, are they going to reveal their sexuality and not donate? Sure, they can go through the act and check the box so their blood gets thrown away... but if they're ****ing guys behind their wives' backs, why would they show any honesty or compassion for their fellow humans.
You know this must be happening every day. And yet where are the news stories of people being infected with HIV. There are none. Because we have tests now--we've had them for a while--to detect HIV. So the blood isn't used.
So why can't out gay men donate?
No scientific reason. It's political.
The Human Rights Campaign, the American Red Cross, America's Blood Centers and AABB, formerly known as the American Association of Blood Banks, support easing the lifetime ban to allow gay blood donors. In a joint statement, the blood organizations said that safety was the first priority and that potential donors should be screened more fairly, regardless of sexual orientation.
About three months ago, Sen. John Kerry and 17 other senators signed a letter to the FDA blasting its "outdated" policy.
Gay men, including those who are in monogamous relationships, are forbidden from contributing blood for the rest of their lives, while "a heterosexual who has had sex with a prostitute need only wait a year [before giving blood]. That does not strike me as a sound scientific conclusion," Kerry wrote in a March 9 letter.
And we can't donate.
For political reasons, not scientific ones.
Even the American Red Cross wants our blood:
http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/14/ban-on-gay-men-donating-blood-upheld/
Talk about risk factors--what about closeted gay men who screw random strangers, having unprotected sex, and then go home to their cozy wife & kids? If their wife/workplace encourages them to donate blood, are they going to reveal their sexuality and not donate? Sure, they can go through the act and check the box so their blood gets thrown away... but if they're ****ing guys behind their wives' backs, why would they show any honesty or compassion for their fellow humans.
You know this must be happening every day. And yet where are the news stories of people being infected with HIV. There are none. Because we have tests now--we've had them for a while--to detect HIV. So the blood isn't used.
So why can't out gay men donate?
No scientific reason. It's political.
The Human Rights Campaign, the American Red Cross, America's Blood Centers and AABB, formerly known as the American Association of Blood Banks, support easing the lifetime ban to allow gay blood donors. In a joint statement, the blood organizations said that safety was the first priority and that potential donors should be screened more fairly, regardless of sexual orientation.
About three months ago, Sen. John Kerry and 17 other senators signed a letter to the FDA blasting its "outdated" policy.
Gay men, including those who are in monogamous relationships, are forbidden from contributing blood for the rest of their lives, while "a heterosexual who has had sex with a prostitute need only wait a year [before giving blood]. That does not strike me as a sound scientific conclusion," Kerry wrote in a March 9 letter.
Mgkwho
Nov 4, 02:39 PM
People have already been commenting on future generations/revisions of the shuffle.
This is how I see the shuffle's roadmap:
Currently, it is at 1GB.
I think the next revision will bump it to 2GB at the same price point. That's what happened with the nano AND shuffle a year later. (although the shuffle did increase by $10, maybe due to the dock/form factor difference?)
My opinion is that they can not have two shuffles at 1GB and 2GB because of the price right now, and the intrusion into the nano market. Right now, prove me if I'm wrong, 2GB flash memory costs anywhere from $50-$100?
I also see Apple chopping off the part on the left that does not have controls. They will move the headphone jack over as well as the controls so that it fits in a 1"x1" section. That will probably be 3rd Gen, maybe at 4GB.
I think by the time 4GB becomes cheap/small enough to fit in an under $99 price point, they will be able to chop off that left side.
SO in my own opinion:
1GB at $79
becomes
2GB at $79 (sept '07 iPod Special Event)
becomes
4GB at $69 (sept '08 iPod Special Event) w/ left side chopped off. The reduction in price is just due to less material costs because of smaller size and advancements in manufacturing/technology.
I really do think it will take two years to see a 4GB shuffle because of size and price. Apple has historically doubled the size at the same price for the nano and shuffle, and granted that is only a year's work of data.
What does everyone think?
-=|Mgkwho
This is how I see the shuffle's roadmap:
Currently, it is at 1GB.
I think the next revision will bump it to 2GB at the same price point. That's what happened with the nano AND shuffle a year later. (although the shuffle did increase by $10, maybe due to the dock/form factor difference?)
My opinion is that they can not have two shuffles at 1GB and 2GB because of the price right now, and the intrusion into the nano market. Right now, prove me if I'm wrong, 2GB flash memory costs anywhere from $50-$100?
I also see Apple chopping off the part on the left that does not have controls. They will move the headphone jack over as well as the controls so that it fits in a 1"x1" section. That will probably be 3rd Gen, maybe at 4GB.
I think by the time 4GB becomes cheap/small enough to fit in an under $99 price point, they will be able to chop off that left side.
SO in my own opinion:
1GB at $79
becomes
2GB at $79 (sept '07 iPod Special Event)
becomes
4GB at $69 (sept '08 iPod Special Event) w/ left side chopped off. The reduction in price is just due to less material costs because of smaller size and advancements in manufacturing/technology.
I really do think it will take two years to see a 4GB shuffle because of size and price. Apple has historically doubled the size at the same price for the nano and shuffle, and granted that is only a year's work of data.
What does everyone think?
-=|Mgkwho
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Full of Win
Mar 25, 11:47 AM
Any update MUST have the ability to store maps on the device and not stream them from the internet. Data rates are so massively high in other countries that I usually keep data off, or if I have the international plan, will not waste my precious MB's on maps unless I have to.
I could see the reason for keeping it off originally, when capacities were 4 GB and 8 GB. However, with the iPhone 5 having most likely 64 GB of space, the time is here to have the option to store maps locally.
I could see the reason for keeping it off originally, when capacities were 4 GB and 8 GB. However, with the iPhone 5 having most likely 64 GB of space, the time is here to have the option to store maps locally.
Designer Dale
Dec 2, 04:18 PM
Icons: Flurry from Icon Factory (http://iconfactory.com/home)
Calendar and Photo by:Darin Rogers (http://blog.darinrogers.net/). It's not a GeekTool thing. Visit his site and click on December Wallpaper.
Dale
Calendar and Photo by:Darin Rogers (http://blog.darinrogers.net/). It's not a GeekTool thing. Visit his site and click on December Wallpaper.
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mcrain
Mar 3, 08:44 AM
@fivepoint- How about showing a little respect for the viewers of this thread and use TIMG tags on your images?
I see you still haven't had the common decency to TIMG tag your charts. As for debate with you? Why bother, it's the same thing every day with you. You just copy and paste the same things.
What is a TIMG tag, and how do you do it? Feel free to PM me if you don't want to derail this trainwreck of a thread.
I see you still haven't had the common decency to TIMG tag your charts. As for debate with you? Why bother, it's the same thing every day with you. You just copy and paste the same things.
What is a TIMG tag, and how do you do it? Feel free to PM me if you don't want to derail this trainwreck of a thread.
Gamoe
May 6, 02:11 AM
Could I use a MiniDV camera for video input (ignoring its microphone) but a USB microphone for sound input at the same time in iMovie?
Hls811
Feb 26, 04:02 PM
Not sure if anyone has a 16GB iPhone they'd like to trade for a 32GB Touch, but if so - let me know.. I'm interested!
I would return the iPT but its just over 14 days (I got it on 2/9). I've got the box and everything inside. (all unopened!). Its been wrapped in a "bestskinever" since the moment it came out of the box.
I would return the iPT but its just over 14 days (I got it on 2/9). I've got the box and everything inside. (all unopened!). Its been wrapped in a "bestskinever" since the moment it came out of the box.
res1233
Apr 4, 10:55 PM
Well, this is macrumors and i try to stay away from economic theories, but you asked for it, so here we go:
Monopolies cause "allocative deadweight loss" (although its main argument applies towards state-owned enterprises)
What does that mean?
In a competitive market, producers dont have the freedom to set a price because the rival can always undercut them until the point where lowering the price will cause in a loss.
BUT the monopolist firm can decide the price it charges by varying the quantity it produces, so it will produce only up to the quantity where its profit is maximized. UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES, the level of output is lower than the socially optimal one, which is where the max price a consumer is willing to pay is the same as the minimum price that the producer requires in order not to lose money.
When the amount produced is LESS than the socially optimal quantity, it means not serving some consumers who are perfectly willing to pay MORE than the minimum price that the producer requires but who are unwilling to bear the price at which the monopoly firm can max its profit. The unfulfilled desire of those neglected consumers is the social cost of monopoly.
So basically, monopolies will start losing more money when they start raising the price since consumers will either 1) not be able to access such services (since they will only make the MIN amount for MAX price and by using calculus, you would rather spend a little more in the amount produced and make a little less profit rather than having an EXACT amount although you would make the best profit IF you sold ALL items) or 2) consumers will just stop using it since cell phone devices are not a NECESSITY but instead a WANT. do you think you will pay whatever cellphone company if the price exceeds a certain comfort zone in your income bracket? you wont.
Furthermore, I will take it one more step. Monopolies can be good. If you look at the Mexican carrier, Telcel. The year Telcel was monopolized by Carlos Slim (riches man in the world now) coverage in Mexico grew more than it did in the hands of the state. According to the "monopoly=bad" argument, service in Mexico should have dropped in every other city that is not important in Mexico's economy while service should have exploded in cities such as Mexico City and Puebla. No, it exploded in the main cities while it also exploded with the whole country
In conclusion, monopolies are only dangerous IF the monopoly is a necessity based. i.e. lets say one man owned the whole united states food supply. Then yes, monopolies would be the worst. But not cell phone companies, cmon if monopolies were SOO good for the company why would Bell even break up his own company? just for the lulz? I dont think so. Because the government told him so? I certainly dont believe it since Bell probably would have had the power to lobby his way out and in case nothing worked he couldve just brought it up to the Supreme Court.
Anyways, enough with the economics jargon. Enjoy your economics class :P
I like you.
Monopolies cause "allocative deadweight loss" (although its main argument applies towards state-owned enterprises)
What does that mean?
In a competitive market, producers dont have the freedom to set a price because the rival can always undercut them until the point where lowering the price will cause in a loss.
BUT the monopolist firm can decide the price it charges by varying the quantity it produces, so it will produce only up to the quantity where its profit is maximized. UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES, the level of output is lower than the socially optimal one, which is where the max price a consumer is willing to pay is the same as the minimum price that the producer requires in order not to lose money.
When the amount produced is LESS than the socially optimal quantity, it means not serving some consumers who are perfectly willing to pay MORE than the minimum price that the producer requires but who are unwilling to bear the price at which the monopoly firm can max its profit. The unfulfilled desire of those neglected consumers is the social cost of monopoly.
So basically, monopolies will start losing more money when they start raising the price since consumers will either 1) not be able to access such services (since they will only make the MIN amount for MAX price and by using calculus, you would rather spend a little more in the amount produced and make a little less profit rather than having an EXACT amount although you would make the best profit IF you sold ALL items) or 2) consumers will just stop using it since cell phone devices are not a NECESSITY but instead a WANT. do you think you will pay whatever cellphone company if the price exceeds a certain comfort zone in your income bracket? you wont.
Furthermore, I will take it one more step. Monopolies can be good. If you look at the Mexican carrier, Telcel. The year Telcel was monopolized by Carlos Slim (riches man in the world now) coverage in Mexico grew more than it did in the hands of the state. According to the "monopoly=bad" argument, service in Mexico should have dropped in every other city that is not important in Mexico's economy while service should have exploded in cities such as Mexico City and Puebla. No, it exploded in the main cities while it also exploded with the whole country
In conclusion, monopolies are only dangerous IF the monopoly is a necessity based. i.e. lets say one man owned the whole united states food supply. Then yes, monopolies would be the worst. But not cell phone companies, cmon if monopolies were SOO good for the company why would Bell even break up his own company? just for the lulz? I dont think so. Because the government told him so? I certainly dont believe it since Bell probably would have had the power to lobby his way out and in case nothing worked he couldve just brought it up to the Supreme Court.
Anyways, enough with the economics jargon. Enjoy your economics class :P
I like you.
Morod
Apr 7, 12:23 PM
I love Breakout, and got Colibricks from the App Store for my iMac. Similar, but not the same.
Centipede for the iMac would be killer!
Centipede for the iMac would be killer!
Scarpad
Apr 15, 08:57 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8G4 Safari/6533.18.5)
With the hdmi displayport adapter ?
With the hdmi displayport adapter ?
Wiggleforce
Sep 1, 10:54 AM
;)
http://uppix.net/2/8/3/8d80e216336ae2398952d10b5dc14tt.jpg (http://uppix.net/2/8/3/8d80e216336ae2398952d10b5dc14.html)
Awsome interface you don't want so share? Orginal wallpaper, dock and icon links, please?
http://uppix.net/2/8/3/8d80e216336ae2398952d10b5dc14tt.jpg (http://uppix.net/2/8/3/8d80e216336ae2398952d10b5dc14.html)
Awsome interface you don't want so share? Orginal wallpaper, dock and icon links, please?
gravytrain84
Apr 7, 04:45 PM
I dont get all the whining? Of course its to patch the exploit... simple.. Just dont update.. :rolleyes:
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